This is the Age This Light Had to Come Forth to the World
and Bring Humanity in Closer Harmony --- FATHER DIVINE


FATHER DIVINE Answers Vital Questions of News Editor



FATHER DIVINE'S Conversational talks During Breakfast Banquet at 229 West 135th Street, New York City, N.Y.,
Monday Morning, August 8th, 1932 A.D.F.D., (No Time Given.)


117th Street Extension, N.Y.C.

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At the usual breakfast at 229 West 135th Street, FATHER'S Headquarters in New York City, Mr. George Harris, editor of the New York News, was a guest.

FATHER spoke as follows:


It is Wonderful! Some of you heard ME say last year that I would do a hundred times as much last year, as being called last year, 1931, as the year before, and a hundred times as much next year, as 1932 was called then, as I have done this year. And this year I have done a hundred times as much manifestedly materially as I have done and will do this year. It shall be multiplied by a hundredfold more, a hundred times as much. It is Wonderful! And it is past beyond the comprehension of human understanding. And this Love is so quick and powerful, it is just like dynamite, you cannot stand it. It is powerful. It is Wonderful!



Governments Legally Endorse this Truth

So I want to say the half has never been told, but yet I mean to tell it. I will do a hundred times as much next year as I have done and will do this year. The Glorious Work of God as a sketch and a reflection of a percent of a percent of a percent is beginning to be unfolded. Not half, not one percent of the half has yet been told. The little just shows what a whole lot means. It is Wonderful! It shall go from shore to shore and from land to land, and as I said last night, "every knee must bow and every tongue confess." I say the governments of this world must recognize this Truth. They must legally endorse this Truth, for it is written in the prophecy, "The government shall be upon His shoulders." Therefore the governments must recognize this Truth. They must do it! The Blood has paid it all. The Life sacrificed for the redemption of mankind is the propitiation, the salvation, the Redeemer of the world. So it is Wonderful! So the half has never been told, and yet I mean to tell it. It is Wonderful!


Be Not Weary in Well Doing

The Word says, "First seek ye the Kingdom of GOD, and His Righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." So again I say unto you, "Let your light so shine," and, ". . . be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good," for "Meek and lowly is the way." It is Wonderful! If you only do what I say and ". . . be not weary in well doing: for in due season you shall reap, if you faint not."

I have not sought followings, I have not sought crowds, I have not sought congregations, I have not sought students, patients and friends; I have sacrificed both it and them. But no man has forsaken all these things that he don't gain an hundredfold more in this present time and in the spiritual realm, commonly known as the world to come, life everlasting. Now aren't you glad? The Spirit of the Consciousness of the Presence of GOD will bring into manifestation all good. And the Presence of GOD will produce the desirable attributes, characteristics and expressions that they may aspire unto. Isn't it Wonderful? I think I had better stop!

So live the Life and be not weary in well doing, because I did not seek this Name, neither did I seek this fame. I sought not this cooperation, neither did I seek this publicity, but because I sought it not, it all came to ME. Through the sacrifice of both it and them, then they all came to ME a hundred times as much as anyone else could gain by being called father. So I say be not weary in well doing, and seek not your own, and by seeking not your own,that which belongs unto you will come unto you.

Mr. Harris entered at this point, and after some preliminary conversation, FATHER said:


WE Came To Clean Up All Fields of Life

They thought that GOD was only in the Heavens, and they refused to bring HIM in their own consciousness on a material plane, but the Word says, "Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel" and if it says, go into all the world, it must go into all of the fields. As I brought out last night in MY discourse, the corruption that is in the political field, I would term it to be the father of the underworld; and the corruption of the social world, I would term it to be the mother of the underworld. We came to clean up, and that every field and every expression of life might be cleaned or cleansed from the pollution of the world, that they might give birth to the Christ child instead of giving birth to degradation, and instead of giving birth to the underworld.

As society and politics have given birth to the underworld, don't you see, we will now see that you give birth to the Christ Child. And the Christ Consciousness must eventually rule. This influence that I have within ME, the power to exist in the consciousness of men and rule over them will not be, and it is not just for a selfish purpose, but it is for the universal good of mankind. So indeed, "I AM not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ." for it is far reaching and I was apparently forced out into this which we find is MY Work in all fields of life, in every field of life, going into all the world, the political field as well as other fields, for as I said, the corruption of the political field — politics — is the father of the underworld. And He carried this gospel into all the world, that both it and them may be converted. It is Wonderful.!


All Will Be Subject to the Reign of Christ

He purged them out of their debauchery of whatsoever kind it might be, and John in Revelation puts it on one occasion, "Babylon is fallen, is fallen. . . for she has made all nations drunk with the wine of the wrath of her fornication." We will not be discouraged until we bring the universe into the conscious realization of the Presence of GOD, and then they will subject themselves and those that concern them to the Christ Consciousness, and Christ will rule and reign over them and verify that which was spoken by the mouth of John in Revelation, eleventh chapter, fifteenth verse,

"The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ; and He shall reign forever and ever."

He is reigning now! Now you see wheresoever I go and sit — I didn't tell anyone to come around here this morning, but you, and one or two dozen more have come. I let them in, for wheresoever I go, they come. It is Wonderful!


Complete Emancipation the Goal

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(Speaking to Mr. Harris) As I say, it was a very nice article, and anything that tends to help humanity, I AM always willing to leave MYSELF on record.

Mr. Harris: "Well, I am convinced, FATHER, there is no redemption except through your cause. Mankind seems to be hopelessly drifting, except through the power of GOD."

FATHER: It is Wonderful! It is absolutely true, and it seems to be at the very age that this light had to come forth to the world for the purpose of accomplishing that for which it has gone out, and to bring mankind in closer harmony. Politics could not do it. I often think of John Brown. John Brown tried to bring about emancipation for the physical or personal slaves in his day, and was trying to do it by physical power — individual physical life, and it could not be accomplished. It had to come through a political issue, so that it appeared to be a deliverance and emancipation through and by Abraham Lincoln and others that came, and yet it was not a real emancipation. Men have lived in the bondage of slavery, to preconceived ideas and customs, etc., up until this day.

When you are completely emancipated you will be free from all of that bondage, and slavery of mind and thoughts and of traditions and of orthodoxy and all of that. You will be free from everything tends to bind, or hamper, or segregate or separate you and prohibit you from being one with Christ and one with GOD as GOD aforetime ordained. It is Wonderful!

Then comes the Christ Consciousness on the scene fro consideration, and recalls the statement of Christ as spoken nineteen hundred years ago;

"If you continue in MY Word . . . you shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall set you free."

You are not free, are not emancipated in reality until you are free from superstitions, denominations, races, creeds and colors and all divisions, for where there is division there is strife. It is Wonderful! But this Christ Consciousness has condescended to be entombed in the hearts and lives of men as a sample and an example, which is a sketch of a reflection of a percent, of a percent of a percent of the outer expression of the condition of the mind within. And then this is what I have produced in the midst of the children of men, and it is being manifested among them. And it is drawing men and attracting the attention of men and women in all walks of life, for it is the ideal of life for every profession, every class and every people. It is Wonderful!


We Have the Key

We know that it is right. It is Wonderful! We know that it is right. We know hat we have the key to life,health, joy, peace and [prosperity, and there is no other key. There is no other key save the key that we have. Truly might have Jesus said to Peter after Peter made his declaration concerning Christ,

"upon this rock I will build my church; and the very gates of h--l shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys to the kingdom . . . and whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

We have the key to the earthly expressions, or things of life, as well as the heavenly state of consciousness, and those things that pertain unto the heavenly realm. It is Wonderful! That which we loose in the earthly state of consciousness, or on the material plane, shall be loosed in the heavenly state of consciousness, or on the spiritual plane, and therefore the heavens and the earth are one and the kingdom has truly come and the will is being done. It is Wonderful! It cannot be refuted. There is nothing to falter for, nothing to fear, for GOD is in the midst of thee, and GOD has wiped away all tears. We are not sorry any more. You are rejoicing at the abundance of the fullness of the consciousness of good, no space is vacant of the fullness thereof. I think I had better stop!


The True Ideal of Life Must be Accepted

Mr. Harris: "FATHER, may I ask what is the immediate duty of mankind as you find it in New York, as you find it in this country, so far as a political problem is concerned? What can be done to redeem the country, so far as a political program is concerned? What can be done to redeem the country, to save the country from the depths that we seem rushing to — that the masses of mankind seem to be rushing to?"

FATHER: For those in all professions and in all walks of life, to accept the Christ as the ideal of life and as the sample and the example. It is Wonderful! Whatsoever you stand in, whatsoever profession, or whatsoever you be, just accept of the Christ as the true ideal of life and as the sample and as an example in all professions. There are those at home and abroad, they are beginning to accept of this simple teaching, and they are beginning to produce the expression of what I have brought into manifestation heretofore as the sample and as an example. It has been set forth before the minds eye and has been materialized and produced and developed before them, and men are beginning to see and realize that it is the true ideal of all professions and for all walks of life, and hence, the gospel of this kingdom is going into all the world, in all fields. That is the duty of it. Everything finally must be converted, the professional world must be converted, the political world must be converted, the professional world must be converted and everything — all the worlds brought unto GOD and unto Christ that they may see that the Christ is the true ideal if life.


No Failure Upon Such a Principle

Mr. Harris: "I want to thank YOU FATHER for the privilege of being inspired this morning."

FATHER: It is Wonderful! MY Work is not, as I often say — I AM not criticizing. I AM not condemning, "I came not to condemn the world but that the world through me might be saved." The Word says that. So I came not to condemn but to save that which was lost. And if they will subject themselves to the ideal of life that I advocate, even as it has brought perfection to ME and within ME and My Consciousness of itself, why, it can and it will do the same unto all men that will subject themselves to Him. It is Wonderful! It is Wonderful!

I know you cannot fail upon such a principle. GOD even spoke through the mouth of Moses, or unto Moses in other words, saying, " I will not fail thee nor forsake thee," and Jesus, the great Love Master, said "Lo I am with you always, even unto the end of the world." the prophecy also said, "His name shall be called Emmanuel," Emmanuel, " . . . being interpreted GOD is with us." But men failed to realize that and they drifted far from the recognition of Christ and GOD being with them. And as in their imagination, so it appeared to be that Christ disappeared and ascended to heaven some place, there to remain. But we know the truth, know that He only disappeared out of their consciousness and out of their conscious realization into the far beyond. We know that He said, " lo I am with you alway," and we know that He has been here all the time.

"He was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not."


From Imaginations Came the Conscious Realization of the Kingdom

When He went out of the conscious realization of men He went up out of their realization by going up out of their imaginations, but since He has come into our realization, He came back in our realization, firstly through your imaginations and out of the imaginary heaven. Out of the imaginary heaven came forth the conscious realization of these things that we now enjoy. It is Wonderful! You imagined heaven some place far above the sky, and it caused your devout hearts to rejoice at the thought of going there when you died. It is Wonderful! But having a knowledge of the Truth, began to dawn this light upon the souls of the children of men. Yea, out of your imaginations came forth the conscious realization of the Kingdom of GOD, out of that imaginary heaven into the consciousness of the Presence here and now. It is Wonderful!

So it was good to have an imagination, because that created within you a pure heart and an upright spirit through your imagination, don't you see. But when you came to this conscious realization you could see a new heaven and a new earth coming down from GOD out of the imaginary heaven to the earth in verification of the prayer Jesus taught you to pray, "Let thy Kingdom come and thy will be done in earth as it was in heaven." Now all of that that was in your imagination has come into your conscious realization on the material plane, brought into materialization, and that is into your conscious realization when it is brought into materialization — and here we are now enjoying that which we, humanly speaking, thought we would enjoy after you went to the grave. It is Wonderful!

Therefore, we are not anymore wishing to go up there some place to enjoy the blessings of GOD after you die. Isn't it a wonderful privilege to know that HE brings all of these limitless blessings here and now, that we may joyfully accept of it? It is Wonderful! There are those that have sought it and have sought it in the various ways, but it is wonderful when you come to that place in consciousness that you know you have it. You are happy and you are satisfied.


The Message Has Gone From Shore to Shore

Now here is one that tells us he came twelve thousand miles to see ME, from away out in the East Indies. He arrived here the other day in Newark and came without money. He said when he left to find ME it was without money. He left without money, but he was willing to travel twelve thousand miles. This Message has gone from shore to shore and from land to land. Thousands of people in Europe, Asia, Australia, and Africa and South American countries have heard of this message and through the different newspapers, magazines and such as that, and he happened to be one, and said he came all the way without money — made up his mind to come.


Christ in All

And as I was saying last night, It was so much like the experience of Sammy Morrison that came all the way from Africa seeking Stephen Merritt, in Stephen Merritt's day, and when he arrived here, he found that Mr. Merritt was a great man, and yet Mr. Merritt had more of a material thought than he himself. And when Mr. Merritt began to show him the beautiful buildings of the city, they say that he said, "Yes, Mr. Merritt, but have you ever prayed in such a beautiful cab as this?" And when they knelt down to pray, he just touched Mr. Merritt and there was a shock of the Holy Spirit went over Mr. Merritt as he never received before. I say this young man came from thousands and thousands of miles away, but Christ was in him as well as that young man that came from Africa. The Christ was within him.

I set before you an open door. I close no doors behind ME. I desire to see you free, even as I AM free, and free from every mortal version, free from all personality and all mortal versions. It is Wonderful! I do not say that, that one might be self bewildered or self-exalted, but that you might know your rightful place in GOD; meek and lowly is the way. But yet I do not wish to hide anything from you, I want you to know that you are as free as a bird to the tree, and that you might have a right to this tree of Life, even also as I have. But it is the Christ in you and the Christ in ME, that has made you, and will make you what you ought to be. It is Wonderful! So it is a wonderful thought to know that, and as I said today, this morning, how wonderful, "How great and marvelous are thy works, O GOD . . . for great and holy is thy name." It is Wonderful! It is Wonderful!








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